German and Dutch National U.L. Championships?

[acerimmer]

Would anyone like me to organise a German U.L. Championships.........and a Dutch U.L. Championships?

Obviously I would need a german player willing and able to translate....... for the non english speaking German players.
Likewise I would need a dutch player who could translate into dutch.......for non english speaking dutch players.

From my reckoning..........these 2 tourneaments could be quite successful.

Here are just some of the German U.L. players who could play in a German U.L. Championship.

Glueckritter
Toe
Andi
atillares
Grizzlybear
mister x
Mind
Stratego
edbomb
giovedi
dc annies
Nathanel
Meiko
Iceman
skywalker
endever


And here are just some of the dutch U.L. players who could take part in a Dutch U.L. Championships.

Lion
ruben87
riskytom
ricardo90
wellington
leto
lightwing
eindhoven
bom
BigRob

If we had go ahead with these U.L. National Championships........all the games would be played on gravon............and the tournaments would start sometime in January 2007.

Let me know your views......if there is enough response.......we will gladly organise this for the U.L. players of Germany and the Netherlands.

Cheers,

Ace

[ruben87]

The idea is nice Ace, but I think half of the dutch list doesnt want to participate. And I am afraid, German list the same thing.

[acerimmer]

participation is not compulsary

BUT

I think we could get 50% of the players on the list above......to play.

I put up 16 german UL players and 10 dutch UL players.

I think it is an achievable target to try to get a minimum of 8 german players for the german championship and a minimum of 5 dutch players for the dutch championships.

Although this number may seem low........it is a NEW tournament which will grow with time.

[ruben87]

Until now there are 3 Dutch players (lightwing ricardo90 and me). To get 5 participans should be possible indeed.

What is the meaning of the word: ''Compusery'' ?

[acerimmer]

sorry....mis spelling.
missed the L out.

If riskytom was around.......I am sure he would be up for it.......he is a keen UL player. (anyone know his e-mail address.......so i can give him an invite?

Others on the list may be tempted too.......lets hope so.

Ace

[lightwing]

<< NOT ME

[acerimmer]

after your humiliating 2-0 defeat to a UL newbie (he only ever played 4 UL games in his LIFE) ..........then i don't blame you.
Anyway I guess you would get in trouble playing here.....when your a meta mod.

It doesn't bother me in slightest.

I am just trying to help the game in YOUR country.

Spending my FREE time organising tournaments for stratego PLAYERS, as well as doing admin for these kind of things......isn't exactly my ideal evening activity........(I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE PLAYING STRATEGO, than doing admin stuff)............but i am willing to do this.......to help the game.
I receive nothing in return for doing these things.........so why the hell would i be bothered if you didn't play?

[lightwing]

1) I don't think it should be any problem, for M.
2) A lot of UL players, who definitly -, can still win, by lotto / luck, etc. Not my type of game.
3) "so why the hell would i be bothered if you didn't play?" Just saying, I won't join, because you mentioned my name before.

[acerimmer]

How can you say there is a large slice of luck in the game of U.L.???

Is there luck in a game of chess?

The luck factor is probably less than 1% in U.L.

There can be little of NO luck factor......just bad judgement and poor mistakes. The loss of a game in U.L. is basically down to either bad judgement or a player making a bad mistake.

In U.L............there is NO lotto that can not be stopped. It is not a game for the lotto players......it is a game for tactical minds.

If there was any shade of luck involved in the game of U.L.........then my current win % for the past 18 months on Gravon.....would not be 98.6% wins. (slightly higher than my win % at meta: 98.5% wins in U.L. at meta in over 500 games) This equates to a 98.5% win % over the 2 sites in over 700 games.

211 wins in my last 214 games on Gravon (in U.L.)
If luck played an important role......then NOONE would have such a high win % .
The 3 games that i have lost.......i can honestly say......"i didn't lose because i was unlucky", I lost 3 games because I made mistakes in those games.

If you can't figure out how to defend your flag........then i guess U.L. is not the game for you.........it takes a little more thought than your basic classic game. Maybe the tactics involved in U.L........are just a little bit too advanced for you.
No shame in this lightwing!

I accept and respect your honesty in admitting your interlect is not quite up to the task of playing in this tournament.

[ruben87]

Ace, the luckfactor in UL is of course higher than the Chess luck factor. This Because in UL the set up is valuable.

There are also not as much pieces as Classic in the game, so I think UL is more a luck game than classic is.

Your argument of you own win % is of course useless and rubbish. Because more than 90% of your oponents are newbies in UL, and many of them dont even know the rules of the game.

However I agree with you that Skill is far more important than Luck.

[lightwing]

He did not even dare to play Vs. Keyser_Soze ,Í'm glaf I ended ace his winning streak !

[acerimmer]

ruben and lightwing you are both wrong.

let me first deal with lightwings comments.

[ruben87]

Ace, Most of your arguments are not worth a thing. For example the idea to put the flag in the front row and the argument that because you have played many games you know best. By the way I don’t think I am an inexperienced UL player.

Also a funny thing is that you lotto yourself too sometimes.

I would like to inform you that there are only 7 players with a Kleier rating. So I think my 90% is closer than your 25%. Of course they cant beat you when they play their first (to tenth) game, even when you tell them the rules.

Your ‘’secondly’’ remark is unnecessary, I never accused you that you did not join everyone.

Conclusion: A lot of rubbish in your post again.

[acerimmer]

[cosmo]

few points
1 didnt know u mailed me few months ago ACE do now but little late sry didnt reply
2 putting flag in front row is dumb hmmmmmmmmmm well that depends if the one doing it believes he's good enough to pull it off doesnt it ? for example i have a set up as you know ace with flag right in the middle 2nd back and have used it about 8 times of which ive won 7 should have been 8 only i screwed up endgame stupidly blowing up my colonal instead of my marshal other than that my flag was never under threat in any of the games so is it really that dumb ?
3 you say 20% luck id say more like 65% i mean all depends what you consider luck and what you consider skill for example i lost in 12 moves before , not down to skill however but bad luck id say marshal and general were side by side on my left side lotto'd straight down my marshal was pinned by my captains and even though i got his general wham i lost my marshal he rescued run general down and bomb got his marshal but my flag was taken ,i call it bad luck because if his marshal and general were swapped he was screwed but as luck had it my setup wasnt made for a lotto flank run lol but i did learn a lot from that loss and i did get revenge , after yrs of playing i was able to just look at opponents setup and know right off where flag was not 100% but i had pretty good idea and would often just attack that area and get flag which i'm sure opponent would be muttering lucky #%## so to him or her total luck but from my view yes luck but mostly good judgement , i had an uncanny nack of knowing what piece was advancing for example a sergeant and id beat it with a sergeant Lucky ? or Skill ? most would say total luck perhaps so but in ul you need luck . leaving a general entire game on back line and opponent thinking bomb and thus losing them game another example is that just bad luck ? or great trickery on my part ? whatever % anyone thinks its still part of the game sometimes more than other times
4 as for playing newbies
i gotta say often they are harder to beat than experienced players because they do moves that make no sense and that you cant expect and that sometimes can cost you so can over confidence .

thats all power went out once already and im not starting over a 3rd time lol