Dozer

[ricardo90]

dozer is a stupid player who is gambling from the beginning he thinks he is better then me ans thinks he is the best from gravon but he can only win when he is gambling. i played to him and we were just beginning and after 20 seconds he comes with his general and gambled all my pieces away and he toke away very much but he didn't stopped.
so there is a new stupid gambler from the beginning

greets ricardo90

[sadistic]

You just found out about Dozer, today, ricardo? Hell, he has been lottoing around town for a long time now.

[ricardo90]

oh i didn't know that , this was the first time and the last time
look when you are losing and you will gamble then i can accept it because i do that too but from the beginning no that is something what going me to far


greets ricardo90

[psychicwarrior]

If Dozer or anyone gamles, its their risk and their reward, isnt it ? . Its neither illegal nor unethical so why complain about it as if its wrong.

People whose setups are quite predictable make gambling easy and profitable... Better players handle this and lesser players complain about it..

My experience is that all players without exception start gambling when behind.. and complain about others doing it when they are ahead. Hypocrites run rampant on this subject.

So .. if all want to stop gambling.. then make it illegal.. otherwise I suggest you get used to it.

[OGETARTS]

Hi all

In my opinion, when you gamble or use lotto as your game plan it is a sign of weakness. It shows that you are not confident in your abilities as a strateago player and it shows that you have no real strategy. It is also very risky and generally you will lose more than you win if this is your primary game plan. Yes, you will beat some players... even some high ranking players because defending against this type of play is rather difficult. My biggest complaint with this style of play is that it reduces the game to almost all luck and it takes the fun away. I like a game where both players are thinking and making educated moves based on information. Yes, I think it is okay (I believe most here would agree) to take chances or lotto when you are clearly behind in the game. To start the game with this style it is not fun and it can be very frustrating.


Happy Holidays,

OGE

[ricardo90]

I agree ogetarts

greets ricardo90

[esquire]

Lotto from the beginning is for the nitwits that are not good at stratego. Anyone can blindly attack moving peices. But the majority of players can win a game based on strategy that actually takes some brain power. My only question is: Why even play the game if you do not play it to outsmart or match wits with your opponents. Playing this way causes you never to learn how to play correctly; and by correctly, I mean, play with some type of IQ-induced strategy.


In addition, playing versus these types of players are the worst games. If they risk at beginning, and you eat up their high peices within the first series of moves--THEY QUIT. Now, who wants to play a game that ends within 3 minutes. Not me. It is quite annoying.

[skywalker]

dear all,

of course dozer is a lotto player and of course edfx is supporting that
but actually it is their way of playing
yes, it has nothing to do with real stratego
i also dont play this type of player because it's annoying to lose and also not a big honor to win against them
BUT i think its nonsense to talk about that
we are quite a big community and we have to accept the thing that a couple of guys playing here dont have time or patience enough

so dont take it too serios
sky
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"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you" Mithrandir

[psychicwarrior]

Of course one likes to think they are smart by putting all their bombs in the back row only to have a crash and burn player come through the front lines like a a hungry tiger on the sheep farm. Yet this is the risk you take by doing so. The illusion of thinking you are so smart quickly disintegrates. Thats when some people then use the forum to complain as if they are victims of unfair competition.

It seems whenever someone is lottoed against and loses a high ranking piece, they complain loudly, yet no one complains when someone hits a one of their bombs. Thus, the neverending hypocrisy.

On the argument that this is no skill to simply lotto, there is a point to that of course yet... any army must always be prepared to handle a frontal assault as well as a deceptive strike. Failure to do so and complain the enemy doesnt think will have a real soldier sitting in a POW camp for many moons. Smart generals now you must be ready to handle that possibility and if you don't.. the torture chambers await.

Furthermore you completely and very naively discount the value of intuition and a players ability to "read" or sense the opponents set up..this is a key factor not to be ignored. As a person who studied with Department of Defense psychic team leader, and what they term "remote viewing", I know first hand that all powerful armies around the world employ psychics to "tune in" to the opposing leaders to "sense" what they are up to. The Russians and Chinese are the best at this. They employed these tactics very successfully in WW II. The chinese are brilliant at even using a persons horoscope to predict their actions. Is that cheap and underhanded? All is fair in Love and War my friend. Don't be so naive. The Vietnamese used this very effectively against the Americans and showed the powers of Planetary and Psychic predictions. They demostrated that superior determination and ability to employ both psychic
and psychological warfare beats overwhlmeingly superior wealth, technology and steel. There are many other great examples of this, Alexander the Great is but another who employed psychics ( they were called oracles back then) to "read" the enemy.

In fact even now, American and Russian Psychic teams , combine talents to determine unknown phenomena in space where no other intelligence possibilities are available. The book Psychic Warrior by David Morehouse, with whom I studied, depicts this in detail.

So to completely discount this "lotto" style of play as rudimentary is simply showing that you fail to recognize the true power of the mind and spirit coming through our "6th sense" of intuition. When it is correctly employed in games like this where deception, bluffing and intelligence are big factors, it can be your most effective weapon. Many of the top players in Gravon are very good at this. Nobody has enough scouts to figure out everything.

YOur argument, if taken to poker, would mean bluffing would be illegal and playing with the completely absurd Idea that we should just play with all cards showing leaving to complete chance who wins, rather than adding the real and great game that it is where all is hidden and deception and secrecy are key weapons.

Stratego is the same. Eliminating the ability to lotto would make it boring and lifeless. If you want to see all the pieces, play chess. That's purely a game of infinite combinational possibilities that keep people analyzing it for years. Bluffing, lottoing and deception as well as planning your positions all combine to make it a fascinating combination of skills that make Stratego the great game that it is. A wiser player understands this. To the less wise, they simply complain and label others lottoers simply displaying their lack of awareness of the real game at hand.

Now in Dozer's case in particular, I may suggest, having played him many times, that if you dont rattle on him for being a lottoer, he is usually nice enough to hit the same bomb twice ;-0.

[ricardo90]