Playing with unregistered nicknames................

[esquire]

I sometimes come online as unregistered nicknames and wait in a room to play people. I am not cheating, just not using my registered nickname at that moment. I am doing this to practice games with new setups. Mostly, I am practicing with these setups under an unregistered nick because I do not want to play a rated game. I am only practicing, I am not talking crap to players, and mostly, I am not cheating (scouting players or setups). I do this mostly because I play all my games open, and do not want poeple to see a setup I may start using in the near future for almost all my games.

Now I ask, as the poll states--is this wrong??? Any comments are welcome. I know many players do this, but when people ask me who I am, I do answer them, then they call me names.....WHY IS THIS???

[-deleted594]

The reason why people ask who you are is because for an unregistered player you are considered good. When you beat a registered player and you are unregistered, of course they are going to ask who you are and the first response by them will be what is your ranked nick? When I lose to an unregistered player that is my first response. I've rarely played unregistered players and have them beat me and when a unregistered player does I'll ask what is your ranked nick and they too will not answer. How many unregistered players do you see tearing up the gamefield? That is why players will say what is your ranked nick?

[esquire]

Ok, but you missed my point. I DO TELL them my registered nick. Today for instance, I told them my registered nick and he called me names. And they were not "nice" names.

That is my point. I mostly play against other unregistered players when I do this, so why does someone start yelling at me for not using my registered nick? I am not hiding behind a fake name--I am practicing with an unregistered nick.

[-deleted260]

Esquire.....first of all..don't say sometimes you come on and play with an unregistered name..you do it alot!!!..second..you are scouting set ups...why should anyone take your word for it that you are not anyway???.You know for a fact that it is decieving to the other player. You also said that you are not HIDING YOUR TRUE NAME...OF COURSE YOU ARE!!!. When i got into the room, you did not identify yourself at all, and gave no simple hello to someone YOU KNOW A LONG TIME HERE!!!!!!!. If you want to sell that garbage about ...oh i am only testing my set ups....why not tell me who you are and THEN test them anyway????...Dude, lie to yourself man..whatever helps you sleep at night. By the way..i did not call you names, i just said you were not honest...and i am right!..MasterShihan
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[art]

It is fair to use unregistered nicks both to practice and to enable a player to play a carefree game against a known opponent whom he can trust to stay at the table etc. I like to play unregistered only against other unregistereds anyhow. Even if I am lucky enough to find someone like knickles who will play against any type of nick, usually its just to play an easy come easy go game, with no effect on ratings.

I don't practice new setups in unranked games, instead, I create new setups to beat a certain style of player who has my number, and there are tens of thousands of those here

I don't find it dishonest to not answer the registered player's questions of your registered identity, but like flamer says, the registered opponent only seeks the others identity, if the unregistered nick wins. If Wussy, esquire or any other great player who is constantly begged to play a ranked game, wants to lay low, please remember they need their space too.

However it is rare when a registered player even will play an unknown opponent, myself included. For me its not the scouting reasons, sometimes it is the "banned Frank style" trash talking that goes on that I like to avoid.

I find that if a registered player in the top 50 plays against and unknown unregistered nick, he is taking the risk of giving up a setup to a player he'll face in the future in a registered nick game. However I do not believe that a registered player will use his highly secret, most rewarding setups vs an unregistered opponent. If he does, its his own fault if scouting occurs. What does he gain from playing an unregistered therefore unranked game against someone he knows nothing about going into the game. Except that the game is probably for rest and relaxation.

Esquire's example is probably the exception. Aren't there many registered players playing anonomously. Why not? It is a benefit of this site, why not use it. The downside of playing with names like "asdf" is that no one will talk to you or trust you. I am sure f p n is sneaking over here, dreaming of being accepted into normal society. He hides. Others like to chat and be friendly as themselves so they never come online unregistered. Some want their presence known and will never come online unregistered.
So if Sadistic were to play only under unregistered nicks, then something happened to the Earth, the sun would rise in the west, and the troops would come home. That's a joke of course, I know you are a humble respected man.

Scouting is in essence, a learning experience, and the teaching that goes on here at Gravon from many players is what makes this site much better than the hillbillies and twisted minds at the other site.

Now if General_max were to come online seconds after spinning around as "maxipadGeneral", then I'd be quite concerned not to use the same setup again......

Playing with watching on is another matter, and I understand those reasons for those ranked 1500 or higher. Maybe if there was another option to allow only spectators with registered nicks into a game room, that would cut down on scouting and on inflammatory comments from the gallery.

Scouting as a cheating mechanism is an overrated fear anyhow. Learn to relax, loosen up some. Don't play the game with anal retention. Drink a cup of maalox, flush yourself of your fears and be proud of yourself, not when you crush an opponent, but rather when you teach him how you beat him.

Look out for Mr.X

[art]

In rebuttal to Master's comments I have found esquire to always reveal his identity to all who ask when he comes online with an odd name.

That is probably because we know each other online, so I don't know for sure why he would not talk to you, ms, since he knows you. Maybe that is the reason, he knows you. joking sir.

Not every match of Stratego has to be a huge battle. Ace will play you in UL one day. I bought my ticket to that show.

Its just for fun dude.

I have seen him online much with these odd names, watching other games in the late evenings then once gpet0 comes online to play, or when someone wants to know who he really is, he'll always resign in as esquire to be on the straight and narrow.

[esquire]

Shihan I did not deceive you. You asked who I was and I told you. Yes, it was after we played-but I have never seen you care who an unregistered player was before today. Also, I was not really in a "chatty" mood. I just wanted to play a couple of quiet games. Anyway, I was nice, and did not do or say anything rude. We played a couple of fun games. Moreover, I found out where my setups had flaws.

Now for you to say that I am scouting YOUR setups---PFFFT!!!!! I have shown you setups, played you numerous times unranked, and offered help---NOW WHY THE HELL WOULD I NOW BE TRYING TO CHEAT YOU???????????


I just wanted to mind my own business, test out a couple setups, and have fun playing the game. Sorry if I made you upset. However, one thing, as soon as you asked my identity, did I not tell you???

Last note, wouldn't it be wiser on my behalf, if I was trying to cheat you, not to tell you my identity when you asked?

[jerry]

Man, I have been around Stratego as most know, back to Fairhousing days from old clubs..

The deceiving factor is allways around, If you want to play unregistered and play against players you know in this manor and get away with it, I consider it cheating.

If you play UR Games and let yr opponant know who is really behind the mask, it's not cheating, but perhaps a little hideing to avoid being played or being asked to play by others in the games room.

So really in essence, If you enjoy playin Stratego from time to time, is to give yrself a crappy record like mine..no one bugs you with a crappy game record-lol.

I do have a problem with players that play, knowing what they are doing, playin unregisted games against fellow players they know,with out their knowledge to gain a upper hand in future games.

As I have said many times...DON'T PLAY UNREGISTERED UNLESS YOU ARE SURE WHO YOU ARE PLAYIN.

Spoken from the Penial Colony in Sydney Australia!

Jerry.

PS Art, Thanks for that cut and paste message, will be on the watch for that unregistered vermon.

[sadistic]

Esquire, I usually take your side but on this one you have been a bit dishonest. If you want to try new setups without rank just create a game and choose an unranked game! There isn't any need to use an alias name. When I want to work on a new setup, I just create an unranked game. My opponent will know who I am and there will not be any deception. I think you are more concerned about losing with the new setup and your pride doesn't want someone thinking that they beat you. This is the real reason that you choose an alias name. If you lost to Shihan, would you have told him it was you? I doubt it. I certainly believe that the beloved Shihan deserves more respect than to be ambushed as he was. I have said it many times; too many players here worry about rank and status. I have lost to just about every player here and I can beat anyone as well. It's really not a big deal. Throw that foolish pride out the window. I respect your competitive nature; this is what makes you a man, in contrast to some of the "twinklers" and effeminates that abound this site. However, this is merely a game where you cannot see your opponents pieces! Based on that, there is no way in hell that you can always win, no matter how good you are.

God bless my NY brethren, Shihan, and his feverish behavior! I rest my case; on to vocalizing some of my glorious sexual tales to my yearning fans!

She was barely 19 and built for speed. She fell quickly for my ungodly male beauty and masterful charm. Who could blame her.....?? As I began the journey into the land of pleasure...........................

[esquire]

I certainly do not care about rank. I do not mind losing ranked games. If you all really think I "ambushed" him, that is wrong. Too many people take this game much too serious. I do not even think I am going to play this game anymore--until Stratego's tournement. That is the reason I only come on with aliases nowadays. I like the site alot, and other games on the site. But for people to call me a cheater is pure bullshit. For the last time, I TOLD HIM WHO I WAS THE MOMENT HE ASKED. And why in the hell would I scout Shihan? I already know how he plays (merry-go-round style). So there was no malice intended. He came to my damn room to play. I didnt go looking for him.

If this is such a problem, maybe spion should not allow a registered IP address to log on under an unregistered name.

If what I did was so immoral, I do not get it; and I will not buy into your point of view, because you are characterizing me in a false light. He asked who I was and I told him. There are many that play that do not tell me who they are----And Sadistic, you at one time did know of PUNISHMENT'S identity and you and him would not tell anyone who he was--so that makes you a bit of a hypocrit when people asked who he was-and you said nothing. Just a point. Have fun responding and calling me a cheat-when that is the farthest thing from my motives.

And do not say I ambushed him. If I truly ambushed him, I would not have revealed my identity and would have tried to play a ranked game later on with my "cheating" motives.

If you can Explain how I deceived him, maybe I will agree with your point, but so far you only pointed a finger and still have not explained how I cheated him!

[sadistic]

Esquire, may I suggest some cold water or a good jerk? If that won't cut it, give me a holler. I have some females on my back that need some action and fast! You seem all wired up, Esquire. You must release, young man!!
This event is not a big deal to me. However, I feel that Shihan is one of our own and you should have told him that it was you before you played him, not after.
I do not "rat out" my friends no matter what they do and that is why I never said anything about PUNISHMENT. If what he did was wrong, then so be it, but I was not going to be the one to turn on a friend.
I never said that you cheated. I would never take on one of my stratego allies with an unknown alias. I expect the same from you.
By the way; although I do not advocate sneaking up on Master Shihan, I fully suggest that you ambush the Sabba clan!!

[esquire]

Fine, for whatever reason, I will for now on only play against other unregistered names when I come on unregistered. When I come on unregistered I do so because I do not feel like talking to anyone. So I will keep it at that. Have fun playing-see you again when the USA tournement starts. Good luck.

[skywalker]

hi esquire,

dont listen to shihan
when something isnt proper in his opinion then he is always like a little kid that dont get his way
my advice is let him crying
it is ridiculous that he thinks you spy out his setups. even for me it would make no sense to find out his setups and tactics because its like you said he is only dancing around with his pieces

if you dont play too often as an unregistered player then dont worry about it because
1. many players do that
and 2. it is fun


luke
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[-deleted260]

Hey skywalker....its you who is acting like a little child ...i did not make this a big deal....esquire did with his post...you would never have heard anything from me...so stop YOUR CRYING. Esquire..no need to make a federal case out of it...our conversation was between me and you, now we get stupid comments from low level players like skywalker...give me a break esq!!!..MasterShihan
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[esquire]

Shihan if you noticed, I never mentioned your name or even hinted that it was you that I was speaking about until you acknowledged it...I was not trying to start a squabble over the forum between us--I was only asking the question because I do not agree that I am "not honest", an "ambusher", or a "cheater".