In Defense of the Alias

[apollo]

Buttwheat, I played at meta for a grand total of nine games. The game play there is not to my liking. Sadistic, yes I used the name potter to post things against you, for this I apologize, but not for what was said. You are a disgrace to the game of stratego and most here hate your guts. And, by the way, I noticed your name appears green in the game room as does mine, this must mean that you are also guilty of having more than one registered nick playing under your IP address. What is your story?

[OGETARTS]

Thanks for the compliment, Luc. You are good man and a nice friend.

I ONLY use the name OGETARTS when I play ranked games. As I said before, sometimes it's typed in all lower case or sometimes the first letter is capital and the rest is lower case. However it is typed, it is still ME. I can't understand why someone would use 2 or more registered nicks at Gravon? It makes zero sense to me.

I do play a few unranked games from time to time..... maybe once every 3 weeks or so (if that much). The only time I do play unranked is to test a new strategy or try a new setup that I have worked on. When I do play an unranked game it is always under a name different than OGETARTS, but never the same name.

Nice post Darth. Sorry to see you go Apollo. Maybe you will return later.


Thanks,

OGE

[sadistic]

I promised Spion to attempt to avoid verbal bashing of low lifes such as frank. However, as long as his ridiculous post is up, I do not have any choice but to squash his idiocy. Everything about his post is garbage. I am not one of the best players from meta? If not, how come no other meta player has been able to beat me in almost 6 months, apart from one lotto game for commish? How come no other meta player has been able to match my ranking here at gravon? I am "flamer"? What a moron. Flamer, from what I was told is 14 years old and I do not have any idea who he is personally, nor do I have access to his account information. I speak to him at times and have tried to help him a bit. I do that for young, new players. That is something beyond frank's imagination since all of his motives are self serving. The so-called aliases from meta were not all mine. Tatiana is her own player and always was. Nickarz was created for an 11 year old boy in the family but he only used it briefly, so others in the family used it including myself, on occasion. Sickborder was winchester's cousin's account which I used on several occasions to blow out frank. Winchester was a good friend and despised frank as well. I used aliases there to wipe out enemies of mine when they would bad mouth me off the game board and not play me on the game board. They would attack me verbally on the forum and remove my posts when I retaliated. They would then avoid me on the game field. I did what I had to in order to get my revenge and that was use aliases to conceal my identity so that they would not avoid me. The only persons I did this to were my enemies frank and commish. commish is always a threat to win a game since he employs an all or nothing lotto style. Most of the time his skill will fall short, however. frank has a very predictable, plodding game and he wins only about 1 or 2 out of 10 games against me, at this point. I do not even play him since he is not what I consider a challenge. Dgtile is far better than frank and was always ranked higher than he, at meta. In fact, frank avoided dgtile as he would any player who had his number. frank is very skilled at one thing only; LYING. Gravonians are learning this very quickly.
Apollo, you are a wimp who runs and hides under aliases. I was not banned for using aliases. I was banned for insulting Stratego for banning me from the forum. I do not use aliases. It is a waste of time. I value my time.
frank's statement about me being banned at meta is also nonsense. I am not banned from playing. I have allowed the Sadistic account to expire out of choice. If I wanted to play there I would renew it. I chose not to. I am banned from the message board only but not from playing. I mentioned buttweep because he is an ornery instigator who assumes a much higher skill level than he possesses, much like frank. In my opinion he represents the sickness of metagorge and is part of the reason why it is dying. He is not nearly as guilty of bringing down the site as frank, Hamby and commish are, but he has chased away plenty of players. I personally do not find him nearly as offensive as frank. Buttweep is ornery but not as deeply depraved as frank.
I strongly suggest that spion keep a close eye on frank. You do not want filth like he is, ruining your site with his lies and disagreeable personality. It is truly a turn off to other players.

[esquire]

[TheCommish]

I cannot believe Alex even posted that garbage about not caring about rankings. Rankings is all he cares about, he once played a 1600 move game to preserve his ranking. He set up a fake 40 game winning streak to improve his ranking. This is a guy who throws stuff at the computer when he loses. If he all of a sudden does not care about rankings it is because he knows he cannot compete with the better Euro players (or any other quality player).

Alex, how about an apology for all the names thrown at metaforge for the potter posts? Turns out it was a gravon player who hates you - what a surprise.


I need to start a new thread - "In defense of Lotto" - Where advanced skill disects poor defense and predictable playing styles.

Commish

[sadistic]

Above is more garbage from the king meta hyena. When have I thrown something at the computer? Were you here at my house? I doubt you would get 200 feet from me without first placing your children in front of you for safety. Ratings are fun but they should not become so important that they deprive a player of playing and/or having fun. I can compete with any player and I do not shy away from competition, unlike commish who told others that he won't play here because he cannot compete with the Dutch. I have achieved several winning streaks here over 20 games. A 40 game winning streak at meta is child's play since the competition blows over there. Perhaps you should change the name of your site to scrub-a-forge, lotto man.

[TheCommish]

[sadistic]

At least I don't place my children in front of me in fear of another man. Face the facts, commish. You are not even in my league and your only chance is lotto luck. You are obsessed with me to the point of embarrassing proportions. For the record, I have never thrown anything at my computer. Stay in your pigpen, lotto loser. You created it.

[esquire]

Commish --Why do you continue to come to Gravon to pick fights with Sadistic. We all know the story, so quick repeating it.


Even if some do not like Sadistic, he is at this site, and you are at Meta . Let's keep it that way.

P.S. Please take frank back with you!


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And rankings do matter somewhat. I do not care where I am ranked, but before I became higher ranked--I never had the "better" players asking me for games. Shoot I was lucky to have them speak to me. But now, I am friend with some of them and we play a lot.

[TheCommish]

Like it or not esquire - I am also a gravon member.

I do not pick fights with Sadistic - I do however point out when his post are inaccurate as was the case with his claims that ratings do not matter to him (had to control the laughter).

As for frank, he is his own man. I do not speak for him and he certaintly does not speak for me.

Commish

[sadistic]

Saying that I had a bogus 40 game winning streak is picking a fight. Saying that I use aliases to scout setups is hardly a friendly gesture. I am not at meta anymore, which should be a blessing to you since it is clear that I would dominate. Why don't you meta hyenas just amuse yourselves and let me be? Don't deny that you have badgered me endlessly. I noticed that you pathetic groupies are still writing about me on the meta forum! I was able to log on from another computer, to your message board, a few weeks ago. I was surprised to see that you are still trying to cut me down on your forum. I have not been there for months! If that is not obsession, what is it? It is not my fault that my dominance over you has left deep scars. It is time to get over it and look for lesser opponents to compete with. I have moved over to the major leagues. I extend my sympathies, if doing so has broken your heart.

[Guest]

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[attila]

Hi all,

Never a dull moment here in the forum.

Thanks to those here who must work dilligently to keep Gravon, the wolrd's greatest Stratego site ever, functioning, we Stratego players have a place to go where, only two years ago, I only wished there was such a thing. I have waited soooooo loooooong for GRAVON to come into fruition. These people do it day in and day out with no monitary reward. Thank you.



Now a moment of silence and prayer for the continuation of Gravon.



Having said that, there are legitimate issues which come up that the great administrators at Gravon are trying their best to resolve. One of them is the issue of members registering more than one nick. All understand the motivation behind this, and it really isn't fair to players who think they are playing someone they have never played against, but in fact it may be someone they know very well. It certainly would be easy to beat anyone if you recognized their setup and knew where there flag was.

It is not absolute proof, however, that someone is using more than one registered nick if it turns out that a nick is being used at more than one IP address. For example, I play as Attila at my home using the IP that I am registered with and I play as Attila at two of my friends' houses. I do not have any suspicion about me because my friends just watch me ravage my opponents, as I usually do, and are not registered members themselves. The moment one of them registers themselves though, the Gravon police will be knocking on my virtual door and accusing me or them of having more than one registered nick. Another likely scenario is that, for example, if I went over to Zombiewolf or Tableplay's house (they live near me me here in the San Francisco Bay Area) and played on Zombie's or Table's computer as Attila, one of us may be charged with the crime of having more than one registered nick. Is that punishable by death? But, really what happened is very innocent, and I don't see how there is anything wrong with getting together with a fellow stratego nut or a bunch of them for that matter, as Table, Zombie and I plan to do one of these days. Not only that, but if you are playing on Gravon there is always the potential that you may be playing against a couple of Gravon players all influencing one player against you. It may be a group of jolly Gravonian Stratego freaks who decided to get together for a day of Stratego at one of their houses, some of whom may know your setups and style very well. You won't know that others are behind the scenes.

So, it is not as simple as tracking players down who use more than one IP address when playing using there normal registered nick. I think as more and more players around the world come to appreciate Stratego and it's brilliant players such as Attila, these kind of situations will innocently occur more often. And, why not? It's more fun with others watching. Isn't that the idea? Fun!

This post is not in anyway intented to point a finger at well meaning Gravon administrators, whom I regard highly, but simply to say that I think it is a good idea to try to keep track of these things without retrobution especially if it's unfounded. It is impossible to know whether a players is really using a couple registered nicks or not based on IP addresses alone, and if a player really wants to get away with it, he can register different nicks from different IPs and never mix them up. In that case it's impossible to stop. Who knows. Maybe there are only actually 12 real people playing on gravon and the rest are aliases .

To summerize, the idea of changing a player's nick to green if he has used more than one IP address is good, but to make a player feel like a he is branded or a cheater, or further, to suspend that person from playing here when I've just shown that it may simply be innocent fun and not even a true case of multiple registering, is wrong. It's a great idea to have a system for identifying which IPs are associated with others maybe even having an automatic system for listing them in the forum for those who care. But, it is a problem that cannot be completely stopped, and Gravonians who are really concerned about it should play here knowing that it is never certain who is really behind the mask of the computer and should play accordingly. In addition, please keep in mind folks that every issue that you expect solutions for requires these poor guys at Gravon to have to spend their own time to resolve.
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[jerry]

Well for one Atilla, It has had great results so far, and even as it may not have a solution, it's one way of saying, we care and enough to show action.

In most cases here, and as written, the players have come forth with their point, and exsplained fully, its a few of the bad apples, which need to be kept in check, either here or in the games room.

Players playin with themselves..yea yea same Ip addy will allways be a problem, and with always cause complaint almonst other Stratego players, simply it can just not be allowed, even if yr honest, I just can not see how it would work.

Registration is a key, good point is here in the forum anyway.


But be assured, their is one thing I do hate, and Darth, and many others from the old club, cheaters have no part in this great game, And I will do my best to exspose those that do, and it's nice to be rarely wrong.

I here yu Sir, and thankyu for yr detailed post for everyone to read.

Cheers Jerry.

[tableplay]

Ahh yes the Bishop of Battle -- I really enjoyed that segment with Emelio Estevez where he played a super video game wizard . . .