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esquire
Alter Hase


Joined: 12 Mar 2004
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Location: Michigan, USA

PostPosted: 22.04.2005 07:55    Post subject: Rudeness Reply with quote

I do not know what the atmosphere is like at Meta, but, from what I have become accustomed to, at Gravon we enjoy likeable personalities and good sportsmanship from everyone. Now maybe I caught him on a bad day, but frank was very rude. I was winning a game and he started calling me names after he was defeated. I knew four bombs and had more than three times the amount of pieces he did, plus his flag was obviously in the corner with the other two bombs surrounding it. So I hit unmoved pieces and was able to easily win the game. This was NOT lotto, especially considering the circumstances. Instead of saying gg, he called me names and said other rude comments.

I am only asking you to play with some decency and not call people names. The culture here at Gravon is upstanding and we do not need any “bad apples.”
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jerry
Alter Hase


Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: 22.04.2005 10:01    Post subject: hmmm.. Reply with quote

Intresting Esquire, did yu cut and paste any of the conversation for us to view?

This is the first instance I have read of with frank here at Gravon..What were these rude comments?

Do yu 2 have any prior Beef, fellow Gravonians should be aware of?

Jerry.
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esquire
Alter Hase


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Location: Michigan, USA

PostPosted: 22.04.2005 16:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I did not cut and paste the text, but I did have about four witnesses. I am not trying to get him in trouble. I am only asking him to show some decency.

And Jerry, I do not know who this guy is. I never played at Meta. I have played him 2-3 times here, and he has never said anything nice before, after or during a game to me.
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fpn
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Joined: 08 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: 23.04.2005 00:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, I was far from rude. I invited you into the game, offered a "gl" and never said a word to you prior to you going on a lotto hunt.
When your General went on a blind "hit whatever " swing I simply gave you the game. I am not going to apologize for giving up. I simply don't like lotto playes. I didn't call you any names. My remarks to you in the chatt room were short and sweet; "take the game".
No name calling, no rudeness, nothing was said other than "take the game". Next time you go onto the forum to bash me, have the evidence to back it up. Just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it to be true.
My reputation at Meta not withstanding you don't know me or anything about me. I have been nothing but respectful of everyone here that has been the same to me. I suggest that the next time you consider running to the board and making up alligations about me or any other player, you have specifics and proof to back it up otherwise you're just making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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OGETARTS
Alter Hase


Joined: 11 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: 23.04.2005 02:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you guys play an unranked game?

OGE
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esquire
Alter Hase


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PostPosted: 23.04.2005 04:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok frank. Now you are lying. I did have witnesses to this. And what I did was not Lotto. I am not a lotto player, so give that a rest.

You were rude after you lost, and you never did say the words "take the game." So quit lying. And for the record--I did state: maybe it was not your day or game, in the previous post. I do not know you and you may have a good reputation. But sir, I do not lie, and I have been very nice and respectable to almost everyone on Gravon.
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art
Alter Hase


Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 325
Location: USA

PostPosted: 23.04.2005 08:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting/(confirming). too bad I wasn't one of the 4. can we reconsider the recent "launch gravon" bans, I'm on record against those moves.

Note to "theplayer-formerly-known-as--". I always overlooked your "far-out" posts. I try sometimes to diffuse situations. But your recent posts that led to your ban, prove out that my 90 degree turn, and your eventual ban were correct. I took the side of decency, and did not align myself with a person who used racial slurs in order to defend his "far-out" posts. What your fingers keyed in was not funny. Good day gravoners.
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sadistic
Alter Hase


Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Location: Florida, USA

PostPosted: 24.04.2005 01:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always said that time reveals the truth. frank is a serial liar and has a history of exactly what esquire is talking about. Esquire is one of the most decent and helpful players here. He shares strategies with others and is an overall asset to this site. Esquire is one of the best players here, as well. frank cannot hide himself forever and it is only a matter of time that people and administration become knowledgeable of his indecency.
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fpn
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PostPosted: 24.04.2005 02:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

esquire wrote:
Ok frank. Now you are lying. I did have witnesses to this. And what I did was not Lotto. I am not a lotto player, so give that a rest.

You were rude after you lost, and you never did say the words "take the game." So quit lying. And for the record--I did state: maybe it was not your day or game, in the previous post. I do not know you and you may have a good reputation. But sir, I do not lie, and I have been very nice and respectable to almost everyone on Gravon.


Very nice and respectable to "almost everyone" is not saying much. Hitting an unmoved piece once is luck, hitting more than one unmoved piece is LOTTO. And that's what you did with your General. Calling it a "calculated assesment" based on finding a few bombs doesn't change the fact that you lotted. However that point is moot as I clearly stated "take the game" outside the game room as my disgust for playing a lotto player. I didn't call you any names and was faw from rude. If anything I was curt with you. If you felt that I was rude then you should have taken your issue with me instead of taking it to the forum. I have no issue with you esquire but calling me out for calling you names then using the forum to call me a liar is somewhat twofaced. Why is it rude for me to call you names but it's ok for you to call me a liar? I called you nothing saying only "take the game". I won't waste more time and space arguing this inane "he said she said" game but only to say if you have an issue, talk to me don't take it to the forum. All you do is make yourself look like a crybaby.
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esquire
Alter Hase


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PostPosted: 24.04.2005 07:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record it was my major. And again it was not lotto, so quit saying it was!

Hey frank I have nothing against you. I will let you be for now. All I know is that I know the truth. BUT YOU BETTER NEVER CALL ME A CHEAT OR A LOTTO PLAYER. I outplayed you and you lost. Leave it at that please. I will pretend you never said anything.

Have fun at Gravon and leave it at that. If you want to play a ranked game with me, let me know when you feel up to playing. We will play a few games and make sure watching is on. When we are finished, you will never be able to call me a lotto player. Just let me know. By the way, I beat you three times so far with unregistered names. And the two games we played where I was using an unregistered name YOU ARE THE ONE THAT LOTTOED because I was up by many pieces.
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sadistic
Alter Hase


Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Location: Florida, USA

PostPosted: 24.04.2005 17:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't any reason to "back peddle", esquire. The sooner he is exposed for what he truly is, the better off gravon will be.
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esquire
Alter Hase


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PostPosted: 24.04.2005 20:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not backpeddling. I am challenging him to a game and still calling him a liar.
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stratego
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Joined: 20 May 2003
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Location: Germany

PostPosted: 25.04.2005 00:06    Post subject: PLAYING LOTTO Reply with quote

>Hitting an unmoved piece once is luck, hitting more than one unmoved piece is LOTTO. And that's what you did with your General. Calling it a "calculated assesment" based on finding a few bombs doesn't change the fact that you lotted.<

hello all,

just a general information:
i think everyone here knows the situation of an exciting game with a "2
leut. in front" after 300 moves.
then the opponent beats blind a major and cap and the game is lost.

i dont like it - or better i hate it!
but not the player who beats blind is the fool, its me. i must handle this,
its part of the game. even if he gambles in the first moves.

AND:
the players are going by the rules. to say anything against it, is
unsportmanlike. please keep that in mind.

to play a game with a "please buy my bluffs" tactic or i cannot win
is much worser than lotto. sometimes known players MUST take some
risks - maybe only to be incalculable in their 1000. game.

also some players doesnt recognize, that the game is long over and that
you can risk some pieces. information is so often much stronger than
a marschal and readind setups is no lotto.

so please stop this stupid discussion of "lotto" players. its part of the game,
its allowed by the rules and its most of the time a sure loss for the lotto
player.

greetings
Stratego
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-deleted473
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PostPosted: 26.04.2005 02:43    Post subject: Finally Reply with quote

I'm glad people are seeing what a "real nice guy" this frank is. People started busting on me for insulting this guy. Now you see he deserves every bit of my tongue lashing. I'm glad the Gravonians are seeing who the real bad guy is.
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sadistic
Alter Hase


Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Location: Florida, USA

PostPosted: 26.04.2005 14:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who does not know, here is the difference between - and frank. - is misunderstood here and a confrontational guy who has ended up in a few disputes with others. - does not like those who impose authority over others. - has good morals and values, however. - does not take internet relationships seriously, perhaps going too far with this notion. -, is making a mistake in this area. I have met several beautiful females over the internet and have enjoyed fruitful experiences with them (hint, hint). I could go on and on..............(uh, where was I..............ok back to - vs. frank). - stands up for what he feels is right, regardless of the consequences. Those who take the time to understand Dr. - and embrace his character are rewarded in return.
frank is a rude, dishonest, deceiving and unconcionably loathsome character. He does not have any warmth of personality, whatsoever. As you see, based on my assessment of these two, there really is not any comparison. I vote for -. Is anyone surprised?
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