Poor Pat Tillman :((

[apollo]

Esquire,

I was just wandering where you thought he lied. What do you mean being typcast as a bigot, do you mean anti-islamic?


Apollo

[cosmo]

this has nothing to do with stratego i suggest posting elsewhere -------------------------here for example http://www.libertynewsforum.com/

enough said

[Gaius_Marius]

If you don't like the subject of this thread then I suggest you don't reply. This is a General Forum and it clearly states that this forum is for subject matter that does not fit into other categories. After 31 replies and over 285 views I think your post is rather futile, don't you think?

[apollo]

Cosmo,

We're just having a political discussion, no harm to anyone. If someone gets distasteful I'm sure the moderator will intervene.



Apollo

[cosmo]

my post was tongue in cheek if you understand that concept its called humour , but i guess not everyone can be funny like the english
if im serious i dont add smillies at the end but i guess like the humour you dont get that either , thats your deal not mine
futile to you, amusng to me and i knew you would post something along the lines you do because you obviously dont get english humour , lighten up guy and read between the lines
oh and its viewed 285 times cuz you probably looked 250 times yourself LOL
By the way the line above is humour read it a few times and youre get it

[Gaius_Marius]

I think you just demonstrated that the English have a very poor sense of humor. I guess the English believe that people need to read their minds to figure out if they are being funny or not. For Example, "The British are pussies, they hide behind America because of the all the problems they caused in the world with their colonies" Oh oh I was just kidding. Let me add a smily face to prove it . "Cosmo what a stupid name" Oh oh I was just kidding. I'm sorry. I was being humorous lol


I think its obvious guy that you were not trying to be humorous. Since I put you in your place like a good little..... you tried to comeback with the whole humor bit. I can smell ..... from miles away. Like I said if you don't like it get...

By the way don't take it personally I'm just trying to be humorous

*Watch What Yu Say --Jerry

[Gaius_Marius]

First of all the title "Great" should be taken off. It should just be called Britain. Many third world countries were - to the bone economically in order for Britain to be called great. They are directly responsible for many of these countries remaining in the third world. Their divide and conquer doctrine of colonization was the brainchild for much of the religious strife between these third world countries. The reason why they hide behind America is because of the problems they caused in the middle east and wherever they had their spear of influence. Why do u think they're they only ones supporting the U.S fully? Anyway I just want to know your opinions on why "Great" Britain is the only European country to fully support the U.S and this War on Muslims. Oh sorry I meant "terrorism"

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[cosmo]

matters little if you believe i was kidding or not i know i was and thats all that matters to me
i do enjoy your responses though they often make me laugh as you said if i dont like it i can get lost thats fair comment after all i dont have to read the posts do i and trust me i wouldnt want to anyway they are so long .
one more thing then im done you say we dont have good humour well i recommend you watch some monty python i suggest the classic film THE LIFE OF BRIAN

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1. Cosmo, I loved Life of Brian....and also Holy Grail and Meaning of Life (esp. the open heart surgery and puke bucket). I don't think I'm "English" enough to laugh at Faulty Towers though.
2. Esquire, it was me that brought out the point of France, Russia and China agreeing with us about Iraq having WPMs. I mention these three because they are 3 of the 5 permanent U.N. vetoing members, therefore they approved each of the 17 resolutions aimed at Saddam throughout the 1990s. In addition, there was a complete U.N. voting member approval of the WPM issue just prior to the present war. I believe there were either 15 or 17 voting members at that time, I'm not sure and too lazy to look it up. I know Ireland was one of them at the time, there was at least one from Africa, Syria voted affirmatively (a surprise---most thought they wouldn't), a couple southern Asian countries, maybe a couple small island nations and of course the permanent 5 (U.S., England, France, Russia, China). This happened in late 2002/early 2003. I believe the U.N. resolution was numbered U.N. resolution 1400 something, not sure...but it is well known yet under-publicized by the press. The disagreement with the U.S. came when we wanted to go to war in March 2003 and half the other voting members chose to "wait". Type in "U.N. resolutions 2002/2003" on your browser and I'm sure you'll find far more than you ever want to know about this and dozens of other world issues. Our field Generals said that it would get too hot in Iraq if we started later and they also didn't want to give Saddam even more time to hide things. This leads to point 3.
3. Since that resolution it has been found that there were several countries/people cheating the U.N. "oil for food" program. Among them, as I mentioned before, are France, Russia, and several close to U.N. President Kofi Annan. This is the reason Iraqi children have been starving and the reason countries may have positioned themselves against the U.S. . In short, Saddam agreed to pay exhorbitantly high amounts for goods/weapons from these countries with money intended as relief for starving Iraqis in exchange for silence about the funds and some help politically which he definitely obtained. Iraq should be a very wealthy country. Saddam used this fact to pad his military, hisself, and his sons while keeping his people below the poverty lines but not so far as to cause a general uprising against him. Back to the point, it is my personal belief that these countries would have never voted to ENFORCE their own resolutions for the above reason/s
4. Thank you Googoomuck for the link and cold hard facts. The things I write are true but, as I implied before, I'm too lazy to find the actual links.
5. I'd like to thank again all who disagree with me for remaining civilized. This gaming board has been smoother reading than many investment/political sites on this topic.
6. (ya had to know it was coming) Which hand do you all use when ...ahem...ahem.... "taking matters into your own hands"? I'm still a lefty but cheated with Rosie Right during a reason shoulder injury.
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[faithless]

Hi all!

-, the English are supporting the US as much as the Netherlands or (even bigger) Italy and a few others: they don´t. The English aren´t supporting Bush, they aren´t supporting the war. Their government does. It´s a shame that the British with their brilliant black humour have to follow their government into this. Even with the "left" labour party in charge.

Ilimoinc, you aren´t showing good manners yourself by saying you couldn´t understand most of my post. If you are too lazy to read the whole post or if you don´t have any arguments against mine you may say this - your sentence was just foul.

Greetings!

Faithless

[faithless]

After these more or less personal things I would like to go on with some facts.

The National Security Council was speaking about invading Iraq ten days after Bush was made president. This conversation was following a "planning" inside the Pentagon and the CIA how to find reasons to do this. Reasons the people of the United States would accept.

I may talk about one example:
Former US-ambassador in Iraq Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger to find evidence Saddam Hussein wanted to buy 500 tons of Uran. Uran to build atom-bombs. He didn´t find anything. Worse: he found evidence that this is just some invented story. Back in the US he told CIA-agents the facts he found.
Nobody found any proof and Wilson, like others, thought this topic was finsihed. File closed.
But Colin Powell had to convince the world. And, maybe you saw his UN-speech, he didn´t had any. So he told the world something about mobile chemical laboratories and he also said that Hussein wanted to buy Uran in Africa to go on with his program to build atomic weapons.
Wilson was shocked. What about the things he found out? What about the truth?
Other people had the same problem. They were working for the CIA or the Pentagon and had to find evidence for some constructed stories. If they didn´t found facts they were told "to work harder". If there was really no evidence and they weren´t creative enough to invent some they were sent away and got rid of their assignment. Replaced by young ambitious people who had not much knowledge about seroius investigations but no problems telling important people what these wanted to hear.
Wilson had no problem telling the truth. In reward his wife was named as a CIA-agent. Her identity was made public. A criminal act - made by the US government.
While searching one finds many lies. Especially Colin Powell, the minister of the inner circle who was less convinced of the whole war, was lying. He had to convince the world. He didn´t - as everyone knows. Because there were no such facts. At least most of the Americans seem to be convinced.

There is a very interesting article about this, written in the second biggest german political magazine Der Stern. Sorry, just in German.
http://www.stern.de/politik/ausland/index.html?id=521345&nv=ct_cb&eid=505270

For the english speaking an interesting interview with an insider:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/interviews/thielmann.html

Do you know which direction your government makes your country going to at the moment? There is no morale! There is just good and evil - each defined by people like George Walker Bush who probably never heard of any philosopher who was thinking about morale in the last 3000 years. Their perfect state is to have as much power as possible: Big Brother is watching you!
Paranoid?
Me?
Yes!

For good reason.

Greetings!

Faithless