We need to do without the "suitable opponent" func

sadistic

I can barely play anybody if I want my name to be ranked again, so I am playing mostly unranked games and avoiding any players under 1500 ranking. Is this a good thing for the game site? How are the mid to lower level players going to improve if we higher skilled players avoid them?

I used to play everybody but this new feature ruins that. I don't think it is good at all when the top 10 players only play one another and almost nobody else.

sohal · User Joined: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 47

Since MArch, 30th you played me 5 times, all those games were unranked.

Since you need only 3 additional games against adequate opponent in order to be ranked, if you have made those games ranked, you would be ranked yet and could have played 4 more games against middle players.

Same happens against others top 10 players : 4 unraked games against mondfalke, 2 unranked games against edbomb, 1 unranked game against nochance.

It's just up to you man...

sadistic · Posted: 30.04.2014 12:54 Post subject:

First of all, you have not played half as many ranked games as I have, Sohal. You have a lot of catching up to do.

The reason I played those games unranked was because I had my kids around or had to leave soon and it wasn't the best time for me to play ranked games. At this point, I create unranked games because most players are not "adequate". If an adequate player joins and wants to play ranked, that's fine with me, as long as conditions are good that I can play a serious game.

Now, play another 100 games and see if you are still ranked higher than I am, Sohal. Personally, I doubt it.

sohal · User Joined: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 47

sadistic · Posted: 30.04.2014 19:33 Post subject:

gentleben · Fortgeschrittener Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 103

Sadi, we went through this several years ago when you weren't here. The reason the rule was added was to prevent cherry picking, chief of whom was Dozer who was ranked number 1 with a high winning percentage, but he only played very low ranked players. He even had a 50 plus winning streak if I am not mistaken. After much discussion the current system was adopted and there has been very little problem (none really) since then.

Personally I play whoever wants to play and very rarely do I have a problem staying on the list. I know some do not want to play me (sometimes I sit for long periods of time waiting on someone to join while multiple players are online) but it has still almost never been an issue.

jensneuij · Fortgeschrittener Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 90

Agreed, it's an unnecessary system. Why would Dozer not deserve a high ranking just because he plays low ranked players? A 50 Win streak is impressive even if it's against low ranked players.

The basic ranking system is sufficient, if a top player wins against a low ranked player he won't get many points from it. If he loses he will lose alot of points. There's no need for a system besides that.

ruben87 · Posted: 02.05.2014 15:43 Post subject:

Great system. Keep it this way.

The system prevents cherry pickers to go high on the list, like Sadistic and Flieger this year following Dozers footsteps.

Last weeks you are only playing unranked Sadi, dont become a chicken player with lame excuses and just play the topplayers. You were lucky the games against Razoa were unranked cause you mostly lost them.

sohal · User Joined: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 47

mostly ??

gentleben · Fortgeschrittener Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 103

Agreed Ruben. And Jen, with all due respect, when you get to the top then we will see if cherry pickers bother you. Until then, no one should be ranked number 1 if they do not play enough top ranked players.

sadistic · Posted: 04.05.2014 21:06 Post subject:

I did not play serious games in unranked games vs Sohal. In ranked games it is about dead even and the games are usually decided by a single piece or a lucky hit on either side. Stratego is a home hobby for me, hardly very important but just like anything, I play to win. Sohal takes it much more seriously than I do, scouting setups, writing down moved pieces etc. If this is the type of player that you admire, Ruben, that is your choice.

I recently played a ranked game vs Gentleben where he was up two caps 3/4 into the game but in the end, he lost both caps and was down a lieut. He had to lotto a sergeant with his major and finally some 30 turns later, lottoed my flag on his last breath, with his major.

I am very happy with my skill level in the game and I don't feel that there is a better skilled player.

sadistic · Posted: 04.05.2014 21:19 Post subject:

gentleben · Fortgeschrittener Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 103

Sadi is a bit of a spin doctor, always in his favor of course. My win against him was much more calculated than he gives it credit. My final play for the flag was not a big lotto. I had already uncovered the flag earlier and played out the longer game to be sure it was there (waiting for more pieces to reveal themselves). And I lost the two caps discovering the setup, not unusual.

Sadi, you don't need drugs, you are already too high on yourself.

sadistic · Posted: 06.05.2014 12:47 Post subject:

samuel · Posted: 07.05.2014 00:14 Post subject:

Instead of all this flirting why don't you two have a best of 5 or 7 series and see who wins?