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katama Fortgeschrittener
Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 07:27 Post subject: |
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How about:
Gravon's World Cup.
We have players of al around the world (more than during a World Championship I think) and the quality of the players is absolutely worldclass too... |
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gpet0 User
Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 13
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Posted: 04.04.2013 11:07 Post subject: |
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hello,
i am in.
best of luck to all. |
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ruben87 Gravon Administrator
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1220 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 11:11 Post subject: |
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gpet0 wrote: |
hello,
i am in.
best of luck to all. |
Good to have you gpet!
Gravon's world cup is an option too yes. Hope Rave will join too, so we have also an Asian re-presenter in the tournament. |
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ruben87 Gravon Administrator
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1220 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 16:54 Post subject: |
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Welcome to the tournament, Garulfo. We have now 28 Contesters.
There are some people who havent mailed their emailadress and timezone yet, please do! On the playerlist I note which emails and timezones are present.
Grizzlybear and KleinGrizzly have you decided already who is joining? |
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cooky User
Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 24
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Posted: 04.04.2013 18:46 Post subject: |
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I am in! |
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zach21 Fortgeschrittener
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 178 Location: United States
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Posted: 04.04.2013 19:00 Post subject: |
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ruben... add john_ga and cooky! |
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ruben87 Gravon Administrator
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1220 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 19:45 Post subject: |
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zach21 wrote: |
ruben... add john_ga and cooky! |
Good to have you guys! |
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quicksilver User
Joined: 14 Sep 2011 Posts: 25
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Posted: 04.04.2013 19:55 Post subject: |
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Hello, would like 2 join 2 |
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stratego Chief-Admin
Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 1123 Location: Germany
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Posted: 04.04.2013 21:11 Post subject: |
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hi,
we have a lot of new registered nick names, which are well schooled in using gravon.
we should discuss the rules for some changes:
- first one is, that players need a registered nick name which has at least a ranking for more than one 2 months. (all-time or yearly)
- 2nd: players cannot join, if their nick is banned for rule violation.
- 3rd: only one player from one ip adress. (you cannot play ranked games against the same ip)
- 4th: we should take the all-time ranking for the group pairing
i think we need some more rules / changes.
greets
stratego |
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ruben87 Gravon Administrator
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1220 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 22:14 Post subject: |
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quicksilver wrote: |
Hello, would like 2 join 2 |
Good to have you in quicksilver!
stratego wrote: |
hi,
we have a lot of new registered nick names, which are well schooled in using gravon.
we should discuss the rules for some changes:
- first one is, that players need a registered nick name which has at least a ranking for more than one 2 months. (all-time or yearly)
- 2nd: players cannot join, if their nick is banned for rule violation.
- 3rd: only one player from one ip adress. (you cannot play ranked games against the same ip)
- 4th: we should take the all-time ranking for the group pairing
i think we need some more rules / changes.
greets
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Hi Stratego,
When we use your 1st rule about the new registry we will lose players like Hansie en Jens14. I dont like this rule, especially for Jens who I know and I know he would like to play.
Your 2nd and 3th rule is obvious and are general gravon rules I guess. Zach can add this to the rule-thread and these rules are also the reason why Grizzly and Kleingrizzly cant play both.
Im also not in favour of your 4th proposal. I think 2013 ranking is best because it describes the current rank and strength of a player better, you can see the shape. Like me Im playing better this year than my all time rank and also in real life tournaments you can see that I improved, the 2013 ranking suits my strength better. Anoter example is gpet0, he didnt play some time and his ranking is a little lower this year than his general ranking. Kleier would not expect that he would suddenly play much better at the tournament. And so every player has his story, combining the 2 systems works well I believe. |
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stratego Chief-Admin
Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 1123 Location: Germany
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Posted: 04.04.2013 22:45 Post subject: |
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hi,
i think its tricky to mix up 2 ranking systems. but ok...
about new nicks:
jens14 is ok, hansie => i am not sure (he has ranking now) - but we have a lot more. its just that if a player is realy new, he will lose all games.
but these players are not new, we can check a lot but i do not want to post hints here. its very strange, that in front of a tourney new players show up
and try to join the tourney. new players dont even know that we have a forum etc. they are glad to handle the first games.
its better to play with 32, than with 50 and 20 are double nicks. thats unsportive nad not fair to the players who use one nick since years.
so rule 1 is a gravon terms & condition task and these players will only
get a ranking if we are 100% sure, that the player is real.
greets
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ruben87 Gravon Administrator
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1220 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 04.04.2013 23:03 Post subject: |
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Hi Stratego,
Of course we dont want double nicks, its important to have a clean tournament. No cheating, no doping and no match fixing . I dont know anything about double nicks etcetera. We trust you in handling them. Zach please add gravon rules at the tournament rules. I agree its important to be clear about that.
About the ranking, we just check on the deadline (which is 27 april) the 2013 ranking list. Players who are not at that list we will use the all time list (and the Kleier all players list). Its all Kleier so thats reliable to match I believe.
stratego wrote: |
hi,
i think its tricky to mix up 2 ranking systems. but ok...
about new nicks:
jens14 is ok, hansie => i am not sure - but we have a lot more. its just that if a player is realy new, he will lose all games.
but these players are not new, we can check a lot but i do not want to post hints here. its very strange, that in front of a tourney new players show up
and try to join the tourney. new players dont even know that we have a forum etc. they are glad to handle the first games.
its better to play with 32, than with 50 and 20 are double nicks. thats unsportive nad not fair to the players who use one nick since years.
so rule 1 is a gravon terms & condition task and these players will only
get a ranking if we are 100% sure, that the player is real.
greets
stratego |
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stratego Chief-Admin
Joined: 20 May 2003 Posts: 1123 Location: Germany
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Posted: 04.04.2013 23:43 Post subject: |
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hi,
yes we take the rating of each player at 27th of april for pairing the groups.
maybe at 10:00 or something like that - its just that the rules are clear and all can verify the pairings/groups.
also i would like to change the group stage:
within the group we should play all vs. all with 2 games each pairing.
this will bring a total result of 2:0 / 1:1 / 0:2
2:0 (2 wins) => 6 points
1:1 (1 win - 1 loss) => 3 points
0:2 (2 losses) => 1 point
so taking action and winning/losing a pairing will bring 7 points (6 + 1)
playing save with 2 draws only (3 + 3) 6 points
the best 2 of the group (group with 4 players) will go to knock out.
knock out is best of 3 for next round (in case of a draw after 3 games it goes on till one wins next)
final / and game place 3/4) is best of 5 with same rule in case of a draw.
i think this is much better and brings more action.
greets
stratego |
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captmark User
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 12
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Posted: 05.04.2013 03:56 Post subject: |
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I'm in |
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captmark User
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 12
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Posted: 05.04.2013 04:08 Post subject: |
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I'm in USA eastern time zone |
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