LIST: Opponents that waste your time....

sadistic · Posted: 08.03.2005 21:42 Post subject:

I see that I must repeat myself. Try to comprehend it this time so that I do not become redundant. - play by definition according to stratego league parameters is when one player, who is capable of winning the game does not even try to, but instead runs around and avoids confrontation in hopes that his opponent has no choice but to force the game by hitting unmoved pieces. The scenarios that you describe do not fit into this category.
Damn good post, J. Bauer. Thanks for the support!

esquire · Posted: 08.03.2005 23:54 Post subject:

Potter, even though that is a legal move--I still consider an opponent with only a scout dancing around at the end of a game a loser. That is poor sportsmanship and I feel that person should take a shot with the scout or give up. That is the worst way to lose a game.

But on the other hand, it is a means of survival--so I give you that. But I still think that a player that does that should not get a draw.

sadistic · Posted: 09.03.2005 01:34 Post subject:

There shouldn't be any draws, period. There should be a system where it measures the value of the pieces and in a draw situation it calculates who was ahead and that person should win. That's my opinion on it but I didn't create the game.

esquire · Posted: 09.03.2005 04:43 Post subject:

I agree with you on this Sadistic. Like chess, this game should implement a system to tally up points to avoid a tie. As you can see from my 2005 record--I have 0 draws. I hate them

and only under rare circumstances will I accept a draw.

Actually, maybe the only way to incorporate the system to tally pieces' value would be under the Bronstein Clock games. But this would only be able to apply if the main clock had expired and not a particular person's, because the person that had an advantage would just allow his time to expire. But in chess--this is the concept. If it is an untimed game, a draw is the only possibility if a winner could not be decided. The only time a tie breaker (using the pieces to tally up total points) is used is when time is implemented.

Gluecksritter · User Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Dortmund

There are game rules and there are three different results: win, loss, and draw. A win is better than a draw, and a draw is better than a loss.
If both players try to achieve their best result, then it's a competitive game.
If a player is content with a draw and consequently doesn't take the initiative, so what?
If you're not content with a draw, then it's up to you to attack.
If you can't force a win, then it's a draw, of course.
If you think your opponent should go for a win and he does not, why do you complain?
There is no point in complaining on your opponent's tactics. Everyone can play the way he likes if he follows the rules. If you like judging your opponents playing style, try figure skating instead of stratego.

I'm tired of some people insulting and vilifying other people without good reason.

esquire · Posted: 10.03.2005 20:37 Post subject:

Well I feel I am entitled to my own opinion. I know you are a great player Glueck, but we all have our own opinions. I also stated that I did not have a problem with Dirac, only that I was upset by his style of play. He has never played a game similiar to the one I was speaking of, and you would have been upset over the game too.

Also, I have never publicly humiliated a person by attacking him personally. I have always kept a clean conversion with everyone on Gravon. And I have never berated anyone before. My comments were only directed at a technique.

sadistic · Posted: 11.03.2005 13:57 Post subject:

Hey Glueksritter, is this an indication that you would like to be the official coach of the **** pack? Even though they are a disgraceful bunch, they will need a beloved leader and you seem to have just the traits that they could use. Since you do not find these **** tactics offensive, you can waste your timeplaying them and setting up games between them, ok? Twinkle toes dirac had better stop the nonsense if he is going to be respected among the Sadistic army, which esquire has inadvertently become a member of.
Play to win or quit! You will never see Sadistic scampering around, limp wristed, hoping for a draw.

antares · User Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Neu-Ulm

Good point, Glücksritter! Don't let some infants go spoil your day!

gg, Ant
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esquire · Posted: 11.03.2005 22:33 Post subject: agreed

Well Glueck does have a good point, but it depends on what side of the issue you are on. First off, I did not start this posting to debate whether there should be draws, etc. It was started to warn players, like myself, of certain people to avoid if they want to play a good game. Next, I laugh at anyone who says it is fair when their game ends in a draw because their opponent has only a scout left and you have many peices, but not enough to trap the pesty scout. This is pathetic and anyone that uses this technique is not a great player in my book.

I have never stated I was a great or even good player. I lose to many players on this site. But I do not mind losing or taking a draw WHEN IT TRULY IS A GOOD GAME. So the next time someone beats me with such coward tactics I will not say gg, I will post their name under this topic, and I will never play that person again.

Post closed.

I have made my peace; you should not hear anything from me on this topic until I list another similiar-styled person under this topic.